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jone
06-22-2011, 11:58 PM
I just used the Cabal char builder and worked out I'd have these stats:

HP: 3179
MP: 1508
Attack: 532
Magic attack: 1087
Defense: 763
Attack rate: 3764
Defense rate: 2048
Flee rate: 5%
Critical rate: 51/51%
Critical Damage: 122%
Sword skill amp: 5%
Magic skill amp: 48%
Add damage: 28

This is with:
Full osmium +9
AoP+4
2x RoS+9
RoL+2
Merg ring
2x Forcium Orb +11 (20% CD)
2x Vampiric Earring +5
2x BoS+6
K-Red
EoS+7

and the following runes:
HP, magic amp, defense, MP (all maxed)

This layout is close to my ideal gear (apart from having forcy amp gear and higher +).
The magic and CD have increased a lot from my current gear, but the magic amp seems quite low. Is 48% amp with those stats low, and if so how can I improve it without compromising dps?

EDIT:
Also, what is a suitable upgrade for an Osmium Battlehelm +9 36% CD?

BamOwnage
06-23-2011, 12:54 AM
I, personally, would go for forcy+11 mamp orbs, that is because it increases your overall attack in BM2, look at a lot of FA, they have less than 100 CDI, (except for me cause Mamp orbs are expensive D:), and deal good dps. You have to face this, you aren't going to crit all the time in BM2, but it's a suggestion you can take it or not; BOS6/BOS3 slotted, this is a weird choice because it's basically attack vs. amp.

MrTubbins
06-23-2011, 02:02 AM
My thoughts on this would be go for 1 2slot forci and 1 mamp forci weps. and after that depending if you need a little more base or not, either keep the bos6 or get bos3 sloted, or if your rich, bos7's. Unlikely though. After that its up to you.

IcyWave
06-23-2011, 04:04 AM
x 20dmg orbs better than amp.

IcyWave
06-23-2011, 04:11 AM
I, personally, would go for forcy+11 mamp orbs, that is because it increases your overall attack in BM2, look at a lot of FA, they have less than 100 CDI, (except for me cause Mamp orbs are expensive D:), and deal good dps. You have to face this, you aren't going to crit all the time in BM2, but it's a suggestion you can take it or not; BOS6/BOS3 slotted, this is a weird choice because it's basically attack vs. amp.

I think you are a bit late with amp orbs,thats old,2Slot everything.
and most FA now have 130+ CD

CRHinds
06-23-2011, 04:49 AM
Forc +11 mamp + atleast +10 20 cdi it can't fail..to those saying two 2x 20 cdi, your bm2 will be garbage.
Simply put, let's say you have 130Cdi.
AOS adds 90, switching the last ring adds 15, = 105, 235 cdi ( + aura mode..) , which means you've just about reached or past the cap( i think it's around 220cdi) ..i'm not sure, but I know from experience when I had topaz db, my cdi would be around 240, and if i took off two cr's for 220cdi my dmg would be less by like 20. When i added the ros instead, my damage would be more by about 16. Having dual forc makes your cdi too high and your amp too low for all your cdi to take effect..and that's where the 7 mamp comes in, 7amp is basically 70dmg in pews (at 1k base, correct if wrong) making for far better non crits and even better crits.

jone
06-23-2011, 06:09 AM
Would you guys recommend 1x CD orb and 1x amp orb?

IcyWave
06-23-2011, 06:13 AM
x2 slot is always greater,only I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥ in BM2 when ur on bosses,have you notice why so many people chose 2 slot over amp??? the non crit in bm2 is about 800~900(well for me) my crits in bm2 are 1.5~1.8k each hit,and i crit most of the time so non crit don't even matter,pvp,NW,pve combo crit works best,it's best to balance them out,try to get 1.1k m atk,and 50amp,and 140+ CD you will like it.

AgentGibbs
06-23-2011, 06:13 AM
Morning Jone, is cabal up yet lol mine didn't work but i'll check back later.. Watching movies on netflix for a bit.

IcyWave
06-23-2011, 08:16 AM
http://forum.cabal.com/showthread.php?20278-FA-choices./page3

proof that x20dmg is better,and in bm2 you will barley see the non crits,how FA guns so fast(you will mostly see crits)

IcyWave
06-24-2011, 06:31 AM
Forc +11 mamp + atleast +10 20 cdi it can't fail..to those saying two 2x 20 cdi, your bm2 will be garbage.
Simply put, let's say you have 130Cdi.
AOS adds 90, switching the last ring adds 15, = 105, 235 cdi ( + aura mode..) , which means you've just about reached or past the cap( i think it's around 220cdi) ..i'm not sure, but I know from experience when I had topaz db, my cdi would be around 240, and if i took off two cr's for 220cdi my dmg would be less by like 20. When i added the ros instead, my damage would be more by about 16. Having dual forc makes your cdi too high and your amp too low for all your cdi to take effect..and that's where the 7 mamp comes in, 7amp is basically 70dmg in pews (at 1k base, correct if wrong) making for far better non crits and even better crits.

your lame.topaz and forcy are two different things. and 50AMP +1.1k base+ 140CD is good,GO ASK HAN even.

CRHinds
06-25-2011, 09:50 AM
lol, learn to play Fa. Still doesn't change the fact that you're going to be past the damage cap unless ur using crap sht like Cr+1 and without k-red. with the mamp you won't be. + your dmg will be better. get some years in please.

MamaMiaYoe
06-25-2011, 10:29 AM
I hope you guys dont use rol or merg for bm2+aura. 4 crt rings or 4 ros (3 if ure vamping) all the way til that bm's done and you got ur max damage of crits working.

Tenrai
06-25-2011, 10:30 AM
If your more bent in player killing, shield smash and the attack blended rune

IcyWave
06-25-2011, 03:03 PM
lol, learn to play Fa. Still doesn't change the fact that you're going to be past the damage cap unless ur using crap sht like Cr+1 and without k-red. with the mamp you won't be. + your dmg will be better. get some years in please.

your lame. sorry but using CR+1 was a longggg time ago when i was lvl 130 new stats

1103 m atk
921 def
50amp
142CD
3044 atk rate
3103 def rate

170 FA

chainlock
06-25-2011, 03:33 PM
lol, learn to play Fa. Still doesn't change the fact that you're going to be past the damage cap unless ur using crap sht like Cr+1 and without k-red. with the mamp you won't be. + your dmg will be better. get some years in please.

There is no crit damage cap.

As for 20% vs amp...... It really doesn't matter much which you use.

IcyWave
06-25-2011, 07:51 PM
Yes it does matter,for example Mix,CD,Full amp.... it matters which orb you use... Mix=a bit balanced...CD=full power(bm2 will I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥ but think of all those crits when ur 140+ CD kicks in)...amp build...=depends on ur base have at least 100CD+...amp is for BM2...so yeah i'd go for which is cheaper and work your way up..

jone
07-08-2011, 11:49 PM
your lame. sorry but using CR+1 was a longggg time ago when i was lvl 130 new stats

1103 m atk
921 def
50amp
142CD
3044 atk rate
3103 def rate

170 FA

Are you using BoS+7 and RoS+10?

SilvusX
07-11-2011, 12:43 PM
Are you using BoS+7 and RoS+10?

he said he's a forcium user, and 920 is def is probably without ros10. bos7 is likely, or an amp pet, higher eos etc.